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[Dean]

Is it me or is the guitar getting to automated.....I was reading a guitar mag the other day and they had a guitar in it that had enought eletronics in it ...it looked like opening the hood of a car.I guess it won't be long and it will play itself.I don't even see how these sell.Has the Guitar Nation got as lazy as that.I'am not the best player .but I will do it on my own no matter what,I am not really keen on boxes or effects either,but I can live with that.Some of the bands out there ,don't even do their own recording for their cd's.they hire real players to do it ,because time is money when recording ....but that's another subject.
And modeling is getting out of hand....
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[Gorecki]

I just think it's a part of the era we're in. Guitar hasn't changed. Just people and technlogies. Everyone makes a signal processing digital gizmo and they all sound decent and cheap because now they can do it and cheap! What did basic multi-track digital cost in 1990?..waaay too much that's for sure. Now the price of a cheap guitar can get you can digitally recording possibly even at 96k (unheard of in 1990).

Now expecially pop rock is so processed and digitized...oh and lets not forget people can't play! I think its just a passing thing. People will get bored with it.

Jazz I think is showing a new surge of interest and it will be interesting to see what comes of it?
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[Dean]

I hear you ,the price of the pods and pads and home recording are very in reach of the avarage person...That is one thing I really like about jazz..it is still the player's music....It just does not get its full due in the market place.I think people of all ages really like jazz ,when they hear it in the right setting....They just don't go out of their way to support it ,buy the cd's.Blues and Jazz will always live.....I guess I just want to keep it old school,in the hands as they say.A guitar and a amp...pure.Look at all the great stuff before we even had pickups.I guess I'am just a dreamer.Pro tools and all.Just my two cents.
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[marksound]

I think I'm just terminally analog. Give me a low-tech Strat or Tele, my Blues Driver, and a little old tube amp and I'm happy as a clam. Whatever that means.

All the digital stuff just sounds fake to me. Recording, it's a necessary evil. But instruments should be analog. IMO.

[Larry_DC]

I hear ya, Mark. It amazes me to see how much money some people spend in search of that "authentic" blues sound. They don't stop to think that most of the guys in those days used what you describe; a decent a guitar and a little tube amp that got over driven. Gear won't compensate for lack of feeling.

[Gorecki]

It is kind of funny how the guitar nation has evolved into this search for the 'perfect tone' when what they're trying to emulate came from anything but perfect!

But to give myself a bit of latitude, technology is what feeds my family and I try to be supportive of new tools and ideas. I haven't recorded or played a thing for months that wasn't software driven. I still want to create an entirely computer based gig'n rig but simply haven't done it.

I still believe things will come full circle. Look what happened in the end of the '90's, Gibson, Fender and even Silvertone (Sears?) guitars came back into 'music fashion'!

And I'll never forget the day I went from a floor full of stomp boxes to a single midi controller on the floor...one push of a button..yeah!
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[Dean]

I'am all for a little progress in high tec.....and there will always be someone that can use it all.I just think you start to lose the music or what I define as music ( when it can be played just like the cd or record with out a studio ) The feel of the music means more to me then the hardware .
a little history....back in the day people would string up on the house front porch and play .The strings would be placed on the wood of the house and played.I am sure most of you know this.....Gear has come a long way.I guess I'am just trying to say less can be more in the right hands,and I guess I just don't want the next guitar hero to just push buttons.
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[Larry_DC]

[aiq]

I'm still looking for a pedal that sounds like Wes's thumb...

tech advances in recording, distribution of product, small amps/PAs that sound great...love them.

synths used for the sound effect rather than coloring keyboard sounds, effects that make guitars sound like _________ (fill in the blank with anything that doesn't sound like a guitar), or drum machines/samples (both appear on John McLaughlin's latest) leave me a bit cold.

what's wrong with the sound of a guitar, piano, bass, drum as is?

then again, i'm an old geezer...
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[Gorecki]

Yeah, I have McLaughlin's latest as well and I agree, a little to techie for what I was expecting to hear.

Now at the same time, my little brother is known for and makes a living at being that techie, so I find myself a little conflicted.
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[Dean]

As all of you well know ...blues and jazz players even today ,but almost always in the early days..just showed to record or gig just with their guitar.They would use what ever was there....people like Buddy Guy and Chuck Berry ....In the early days I've heard players carried a suitcase, a bottle , a guitar , and a gun ( make sure you got payed ).The music made is still the bench mark today.Maybe today in a time where everything comes a little to easy...we've lost that deep soul and feeling inside, where all the great music comes from.All the notes don't have to be right just have to be real.
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