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Dave Illig · Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 67 Location: Houston, TX

I thought we should move the aviation talk to a different spot. You know Goecki, we are not alone. Another member on here also has an aviation link. He jumps out of them!! Yes, while they are still flying. Insane, eh? Larry, if you read this, maybe you could explain your death wish. Confused

Anyway, there is some kind of link there. I know a lot of aviation buffs that are into music. Musicians seem to make good pilots. I wonder why??

Goecki, do you still fly?? I miss my private pilot days.

Dave
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Gorecki · Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: Flying and Music

Larry_DC · Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 207

Dave- if I had a death wish I would eat fast food on a regular basis Very Happy

We jumpers prefer to call it a life wish! One of my favorite quotes is from a mountain climber who was asked why he chose such dangerous activity: "Dying is just one way of losing your life."

Regarding Gorecki's question, I'm not sure the description "perfectly good" can be universally applied to jump planes. Sometimes I only felt safe once I exited the aircraft. Things are much better these days, but there was a time when a duct tape shortage would have closed many a skydiving center.

Gorecki · Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:07 pm Post subject:

Larry_DC · Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 207

Thankfully we're talking about the "good" old days. Things are much different now. There was one time when a pilot decided to go for it even though one engine on his D-18 was rattling. When I left at 7,000 feet it was trailing smoke and making a noise like a 30 caliber machine gun. Safety wasn't always the number one priority. Maybe you can tell me if a C-182 was meant to barrel roll with 5 people aboard? Not that I was there those 3 times Wink

Gorecki · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:13 am Post subject:

Okay, I get you now Larry. You're as wacko as the pilot was to fly the in POS.

You most certainly got my respect!

I have to be honest with you in that why I think *you people* are nuts, is the friend I referred to earlier, on the first occasion of allowing someone else to pack her chute, in a nutshell it failed. The secondary came way too late and a few power lines and a lot of surgeries later she is doing just fine. Great Person! But wow, made me seriously reconsider jumping!
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Dave Illig · Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 67 Location: Houston, TX

Between the ADIZ around the District, The P-40 restricted area constantly growing without notice and the insane cost of a rental, the use of the bird being very restrictive and then not being able to land on half the fields in the area, it became more effort then it was worth.

Yes, it is a real mess these days. I hate going to DC and we are on an instrument flight plan getting vectored around. Too many opportunities to get violated.

Dave
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Dave Illig · Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 67 Location: Houston, TX

There was one time when a pilot decided to go for it even though one engine on his D-18 was rattling.

Hmm, that could have been me. I have a lot of time in DC3's and B-18 D models. If the engine was running it was still safer than jumping out of it. I have a friend that was a path finder in the marine core. He would jump into the jungle at night with four other marines and their dogs. He has some stories that you wouldn't believe.

Dave
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Larry_DC · Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 207

It wasn't running for long. A valve had broken and the piston was slamming it into the cylinder head, so the pilot dumped us and shut it down. I have a picture of the dented piston that one of the jumpers kept for an ashtray. Come to think of it the pilot did resemble you Surprised

Don't you just love DC-3's? It is SO much fun jumping out of them. The pilots once gave us zero-G as we approached the drop zone. That was almost as cool as the skydive.

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Gorecki · Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:56 am Post subject:

MRDMV · Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 25 Location: Sacramento, CA

Just a note – do you recall that John Denver a wonderful guitarist was killed when his experimental plane crashed into Monterey Bay?

Dave Illig · Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 67 Location: Houston, TX

Yes, John Denver crashed because he ran out of gas. Sadly he had plenty of fuel, but didn't or couldn't switch to the tank with gas in it. The success rate of celebrities and aviation isn't very good. I wouldn't blame it on the airplanes. One exception is John Travolta, he takes it very seriously.

Dave
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Gorecki · Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:03 am Post subject: